1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,440 It's Pentecost Sunday and I'm in Bristol 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,040 to celebrate the legacy of two brothers 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:12,680 whose lives, faith and music changed the world. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,360 Today, I'm going to be exploring the story of John and Charles Wesley 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,840 and the profound spiritual experience that inspired them. 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,760 Welcome to Songs Of Praise. 7 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Coming up in today's programme, 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,200 we hear the remarkable story of John and Charles Wesley 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,840 and a transformative spiritual experience 10 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,200 that happened this week in 1738. 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,760 And he had this Pentecostal... 12 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,440 ..Holy Spirit moment. 13 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,080 The knowledge, the understanding went from his head to his heart. 14 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,680 I lend a hand at a charity which is still embodying 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,320 the Wesleys' principles of faith in action. 16 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,120 It's not like we work here. 17 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,040 It's like a sanctuary for the people who come here. 18 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,040 It's not only the homeless but vulnerable people as well. 19 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,520 And we lift our voices with some of Charles Wesley's iconic hymns. 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:36,520 # Jesus, and all in Him, is mine... # 21 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 This is John Wesley's New Room in Bristol - 22 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,280 a city that meant so much to both the brothers. 23 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,840 It's actually the oldest Methodist building in the world 24 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 and it's where much of our music comes from today. 25 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,360 We're going to start with the hymn O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing. 26 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,360 # O for a thousand tongues to sing 27 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Wasn't that fabulous? 28 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Today is Pentecost - a day that commemorates the moment 29 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,040 when those early followers of Christ first experienced 30 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,600 the mysterious power of God's Holy Spirit. 31 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,040 50 days after the Resurrection, tongues of fire descended 32 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,360 on the disciples in a locked room, 33 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,840 filling each of them with the Spirit and inspiring them 34 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:32,520 to spread the good news of Jesus to all nations. 35 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Because of that moment, 36 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:38,120 Pentecost is often referred to as the birthday of the Church. 37 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Well, on this day in 1738, 38 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:44,440 a young clergyman in London had a similar spiritual experience 39 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,520 that transformed the way that the word of God was passed on. 40 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,680 That clergyman was John Wesley, who, with his brother Charles, 41 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,520 went on to found what we now know as the Methodist Church. 42 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,920 Today, the New Room is a museum, 43 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,520 and I'm meeting one of its expert tour guides, Paul Marshall. 44 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Paul, great to see you. Hi, Aled. Welcome to Bristol. 45 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,480 Thank you very much. Being looked down upon 46 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,840 by John Wesley immortalised in bronze. An amazing man, 47 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:17,640 but the impact that he had worldwide was absolutely incredible. 48 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,440 However, John's early life as a priest didn't suggest he'd go on 49 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,680 to have the transformative effect that he did. 50 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,040 If we look at the background of John Wesley, 51 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,520 he had knowledge of Scripture, 52 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,040 he walked like a Christian, he looked like a Christian, 53 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,920 he acted like a Christian, 54 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,560 but there are two aspects in his life that he lacked. 55 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,920 He lacked a personal relationship with Jesus. 56 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,040 He didn't quite understand the need for the power 57 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,360 of the Holy Spirit to do what he was called to do. 58 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,680 So, 1738, something seemed to change within him. 59 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Tell us what happened exactly. 60 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,280 So, on the 24th of May, 1738, 61 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,120 John was taken to a meeting in Aldersgate - 62 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,280 reluctantly, he didn't want to go - 63 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:13,680 and he had this Pentecostal Holy Spirit moment, 64 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,280 when he was confronted by the truth, 65 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:19,080 which he calls a conversion. 66 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,760 It said, "I felt my heart strangely warmed." Right. 67 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,280 I think what it was, Aled, 68 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:30,760 the knowledge, the understanding went from his head to his heart. 69 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Right. That was the difference. 70 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,280 And he preached here in the New Room, 71 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,120 I'm right in saying, aren't I? Can we have a look in? 72 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Go on, lead the way. 73 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,480 Wow. 74 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,520 Here you are, Aled, the John Wesley New Room. 75 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,440 So John experienced the power of the Holy Spirit in London. 76 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,520 So, what brought him to Bristol? 77 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,920 John came to Bristol 78 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,680 on the invitation of a man called George Whitefield. 79 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,120 He had been preaching outdoors, 80 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,360 and he was preaching in a room across the road here, 81 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,280 and so many people wanted to hear this message 82 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,280 that they were in the room, crammed in there, and the floor collapsed, 83 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,040 and John said, "We need to build a new room", 84 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,680 and this is how the name of this place came about. Amazing. 85 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,840 But this became the... 86 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,720 I suppose the cradle of Methodism. 87 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,560 And with a focus on helping those who needed help? Oh, very much so. 88 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,280 In this building was the first Methodist school in the world. 89 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Free dispensary, free food bank, free clothes bank. 90 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,760 The point being that people lived in squalor, 91 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,680 awful conditions out there... 92 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,840 He was very much a man ahead of his time, wasn't he? Very much so. 93 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,280 He wanted to encompass the whole life of people 94 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,320 within the Christian message. 95 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,400 But John was not afraid to speak out against what he saw 96 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,520 as the evils of the world, and not everyone was happy with his message. 97 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,520 The New Room was built without windows on the ground floor 98 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,400 to protect it from attacks from Wesley's opponents. 99 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,920 So all eyes would have been trained on that pulpit there. 100 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,040 How was the message received? 101 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,680 It varied. 102 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,040 There were those that were full of enthusiasm and those that weren't. 103 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,400 There was one instance where John said that he was going to preach 104 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,440 on anti-slavery, and there was such an uproar 105 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,760 that people were actually picking up these benches here 106 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 and hurling them around the chapel, 107 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,520 so there was a riot that took place. 108 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,040 And, of course, John didn't just preach here, 109 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,840 he certainly got the miles in. 110 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 He took the message from here out to the people. 111 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,520 He certainly did. 112 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,720 John travelled, they reckon, 113 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,560 250,000 miles 114 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:09,160 on horseback or carriage in all winds and weathers. 115 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,520 He preached 42,000 sermons, 116 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,040 of which the majority were handwritten. 117 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Now, how he did this, he developed his own shorthand code, 118 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,280 which enabled him to write on horseback. 119 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Just imagine John and Charles in their respective pulpits. 120 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Now, it's a tough question, this, 121 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,120 but is there a hymn that you associate with their work? 122 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,640 It's got to be a Charles Wesley hymn. 123 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,920 For me, it was the hymn that Charles and John sang together 124 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,760 when they had experienced this Holy Spirit encounter, 125 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,280 and, to me, it's a hymn of joy - 126 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,440 And Can It Be? 127 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:00,840 # And can it be that I should gain 128 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Days before John's experience at Aldersgate, 129 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,520 his brother, Charles Wesley, had a similar one. 130 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,600 For 20 years, Charles lived just down the road 131 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,760 from the New Room in Bristol. 132 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,280 After his own encounter with the Holy Spirit, 133 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,200 Charles Wesley went on to become one of the greatest hymn writers 134 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,120 in history, and many of his hymns 135 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 were written right here in his study. 136 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,680 From Hark! The Herald Angels Sing to Love Divine, All Loves Excelling, 137 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:20,280 Wesley's hymns have lived on and had a huge impact on Christian worship. 138 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Charles was incredibly prolific. 139 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,920 He wrote thousands of hymns. 140 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Some say as many as 9,000 hymns in his lifetime. 141 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,040 And this next one, apparently, 142 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,360 was one of his brother John's favourites, 143 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,520 summing up the spiritual fire that burned within their hearts. 144 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,360 There are around 75 million people around the world 145 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,440 who call themselves Methodists. 146 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,760 Generations have built on those early foundations 147 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,760 laid by the Wesley Brothers, 148 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,440 including a group in Tiverton in Devon, 149 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000 who are bringing history to life. 150 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,120 At St Paul's Church, one young group have been invited 151 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,040 to immerse themselves in the Wesleys' story, 152 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,920 including when their message wasn't so well received. 153 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Some of you gamble away your wages, 154 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,120 but I believe that God can change you. 155 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,920 So how do you respond to my message? 156 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,680 CHILDREN: Boo! 157 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Go away! 158 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,880 ALL: Go away! 159 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,280 These volunteers are re-enacting key moments from the lives 160 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,920 of John and Charles Wesley so their audience can step back in time. 161 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,520 # O for a heart to praise my God... # 162 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,920 These sessions are put on once a year for local schools. 163 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Roz Thomas is from Lifepath, the project that organises them. 164 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 The Wesley family were an amazing family. 165 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Obviously, the hymns that Charles wrote, we're still singing today, 166 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,120 but it's amazing that we can learn from these people in history 167 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:22,680 and that it challenges us today to think about 168 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,760 how we can live more radically. 169 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,120 Once this group has seen Charles Wesley's hymn writing, 170 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:30,520 they get the chance to try it for themselves. 171 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,080 # O for a heart... # 172 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,400 And it seems that getting up close to the Wesleys 173 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,080 has helped them learn. 174 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Today's been really, really fun. I've enjoyed every part of it. 175 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,840 My favourite part of today has been rewriting a song with Charles. 176 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,760 The thing I learned about the Wesleys is, if you have a skill, 177 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,000 you should use it to, like, tell people about God. 178 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,640 Even though they went through hard times, they kept on preaching. 179 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,680 For Roz and the rest of her team, 180 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,560 the message of the Wesleys is as relevant as ever. 181 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,520 And, for me, it's most important 182 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,120 that the children learn through the Wesley story 183 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,680 who God is and what Jesus did for each one of them. 184 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,760 A great hymn that would sum everything up 185 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,560 that we do here at Lifepath is Holy Spirit, You Are Welcome Here, 186 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,440 and in the same way that happens today for each one of us. 187 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,120 # Holy Spirit... 188 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:19,040 Wesley's preaching always went hand-in-hand with a determination 189 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,040 to help others, and those values are still going strong to this day. 190 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,760 100 years ago, the Methodist Church started this project in Bristol. 191 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Now called Turnaround, four days a week 192 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,080 it offers food and support to the homeless in the city. 193 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,760 When in the kitchen! 194 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,840 It's run by seven members of staff and today I'm going to lend a hand. 195 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,520 What could possibly go wrong? 196 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Thank you very much. 197 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,720 There's that one. You got it? Yeah. 198 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Do you want any tomato on that or not? 199 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,640 He doesn't want tomatoes, you said? No. OK. 200 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Sorry, we're having a chat. We're holding everyone up. 201 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,760 I'm getting told off. 202 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Is that enough? Yeah, perfect. 203 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Typical chef. Did you see? He had to move it around. 204 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,400 There we go, lovely. All yours. 205 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Ross Jeffery is the manager here. 206 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Ross, tell me a bit about what happens here. 207 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,040 So we're open for homeless and vulnerable, which encompasses a lot, 208 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,160 and during that time people can come here 209 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,120 for breakfast in the morning, lunch during the day, 210 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,040 we have showers, laundry, a clothing store, 211 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,680 lots of other, kind of, services. 212 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,360 We're doing, yeah, like, between 85 to 100 meals. 213 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:36,600 But I think they keep coming back because they feel safe, comforted. 214 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,360 This is a place founded on Methodist principles. Mm-hm. 215 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,760 Here we are talking in a chapel. You've even got your own chapel. 216 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,720 Erm, is that still the case? 217 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Is the Methodist message still kind of alive here? Yes. 218 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,280 So, we changed in name recently, so we're called Turnaround now, 219 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,760 but for, well, 99 years, 220 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,960 we were the Bristol Methodist Centre, 221 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 and, you know, all the kind of Wesleyan principles 222 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,920 like, you know, social justice and looking after the poor 223 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,360 and caring for those that need your help, 224 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,440 all of that is still ingrained in everything that we do. 225 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Do you think this is God's calling for you, 226 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 to be doing the job you're doing? Yeah. 227 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,760 I rely on God's strength each and every day. 228 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,280 All of that as a vision that I had for this centre, 229 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,400 I believe that vision has come from God. 230 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,200 Thanks, Paul. There you go. 231 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,280 The team here are also supported by 20 volunteers. 232 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,960 One of them is Mark, who's helping me dish up. 233 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040 I started here five years ago to kind of give back. 234 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320 It was part of my own recovery. 235 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520 To be blunt, I was kind of in addiction for many years 236 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,440 and I... I wanted to change my ways, basically. Yeah. 237 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,040 And... And it's opened so many doors for me 238 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,640 and it's just been amazing, really. 239 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,240 What's so special about this place? 240 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,040 It's not like we work here. 241 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,040 It's like a sanctuary for the people who come here. 242 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,040 It's not only the homeless but vulnerable people as well. 243 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,320 Of course. 244 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,280 And some people just come here for company 245 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440 or just want people to listen to them, you know? 246 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,240 And I understand their difficulties 247 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,480 because I've been there myself many years ago. 248 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Aled, can I have one with no tomatoes, please? 249 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040 There you go. All yours. 250 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,680 Thank you very much. 251 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,760 For those who come here, the service seems to offer 252 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760 much more than a square meal. 253 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,520 It helps me focus on things. 254 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Like, I've got things going on in my head 255 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,520 and I come here and have a little prayer. 256 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,760 And, like I said, I talk to Jesus 257 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,400 and I think he helps me. 258 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,040 I don't think... If the Turnaround wasn't here, 259 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,520 I don't think that I would really be here and alive 260 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520 because they helped me so much 261 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,120 because I was on the streets for eight months. 262 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:56,160 It was very hard to exist without the Turnaround. 263 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Last year, Ross' personal experience gave his work here extra meaning. 264 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,040 It sounds quite ironic to say it, but, erm... 265 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,760 ..since working here, I was made homeless last year. 266 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,360 So our landlord in Bristol put our rent up by £1,000 in one fell swoop. 267 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,720 Like, God's hand was in that because, 268 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 yeah, it was a dark time. 269 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,760 But, luckily, working here, I knew all the avenues 270 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,840 of, kind of, what I could do, what I couldn't do, how to go about it, 271 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,280 so although it was a stressful time, very stressful, 272 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,360 I had all the kind of skills and... 273 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,080 And then I also saw what I do from the other side. 274 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,680 So... Right. ..accessing a centre where you come when you're homeless, 275 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200 and I was able to see it and be like, "Oh, right, OK, 276 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,520 "I'm currently homeless, what do I need to do? 277 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,360 "Right, I need to do this, this and this. Where can I get that? 278 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:57,360 "Oh, I can get it at Turnaround." And we made it through. Yeah. 279 00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,920 With dignity. Yeah. Which is also what this place 280 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,040 is all about as well, isn't it? Yeah. 281 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,440 We try and give everybody the dignity that we feel they deserve. 282 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Is there a piece of music that, sort of, you link to this place? 283 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Erm... I would say Cornerstone. 284 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520 I think that's quite personal to me as well. 285 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760 But I think the work that we're doing here 286 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,520 is laying those kind of... 287 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,600 The foundation, the cornerstone, for people to turn their lives around. 288 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Next week, Claire McCollum celebrates the unsung volunteers 289 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,040 at the heart of many churches and communities. 290 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,360 And now a prayer based on the teaching of John and Charles Wesley. 291 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Holy Spirit, we ask you to ignite us with fire and with power, 292 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,440 that our hearts may be strangely warmed through your grace. 293 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Give us the inner confidence that we are truly yours today, 294 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,600 so that your holiness shows up in every word we speak and say. 295 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Finding your presence in the streets and meeting you everywhere. 296 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Amen. 297 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,760 Well, it's been fascinating hearing about the parallels 298 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,040 between Pentecost and the story of John and Charles Wesley. 299 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,680 We're going to end with one of Charles' most triumphant hymns, 300 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,840 all about the love of God. Until next time, goodbye.